In the latest episode of That Said with Michael Zeldin, we continue our conversation with DeMaurice Smith about his new book, Turf Wars: The Fight for the Soul of America’s Game. Smith, who served 14 years as the executive director of the NFL Players Association, shares hard-won lessons on leadership in one of the most complex and high-stakes environments in American sports.
Part one explored his personal background and the unique perspective he brought to the NFLPA. In part two, Smith offers a candid look at the NFL ecosystem, detailing the challenges of balancing player advocacy, league power dynamics, and public scrutiny. For communications professionals, his insights on negotiation, coalition-building, and message discipline provide a compelling playbook for leading through conflict and shaping narratives under pressure.

